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Pagan Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices

Pagan Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices

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Authors: Frank Viola, George Barna
Publisher: BarnaBooks
Category: Book

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Rating: 4.0 out of 5 stars 216 reviews
Sales Rank: 1880

Media: Hardcover
Number Of Items: 1
Pages: 336
Shipping Weight (lbs): 1
Dimensions (in): 7.6 x 5.6 x 1.2

ISBN: 141431485X
Dewey Decimal Number: 262.0017
EAN: 9781414314853
ASIN: 141431485X

Publication Date: January 2008
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Product Description
Have you ever wondered why we Christians do what we do for church every Sunday morning? Why do we "dress up" for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do we have pews, steeples, choirs, and seminaries? This volume reveals the startling truth: most of what Christians do in present-day churches is not rooted in the New Testament, but in pagan culture and rituals developed long after the death of the apostles. Coauthors Frank Viola and George Barna support their thesis with compelling historical evidence in the first-ever book to document the full story of modern Christian church practices.


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5 out of 5 stars Excellent Exposure of Apostasy in Your Church   November 15, 2008
I am the publisher of James Russell Publishing.com and the author of "The Lost Gospel of John". I do not publish this book, but the book "Pagan Christianity" is an excellent "in-your-face" exposure of the great apostasy taking place in 99.999 protestant churches. No beating around the bush. The authors are directly to the point and back up all their claims with solid historical and biblical evidence. It is powerfully written, brutally truthful and is terribly relevant today in these last days. The book is so truthful it is scary to read, but Jesus promised "the truth will set you free" and for this reason I highly and strongly recommend every churchgoer read this book to be set free from those trusted hirelings who are obviously unbiblically oppressing and controlling them without them even realizing it. This book is a powerful collection of easy to read wisdom. Any Christian who refuses to read this book will one day wish they had!


1 out of 5 stars "WORDS IN RED"   November 14, 2008
 0 out of 4 found this review helpful

TO ALL NEGATIVE REVIEWS:

IN SHORT, I BELIEVE THE REAL PROOFTEXTING IS FOUND IN INSTITUTIONALISM - READ THE WORDS IN RED - JESUS THE MESSIAH RESTORED INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND OPPOSED ALL FORMS OF INSTITUTIONALISM; OTHERWISE HE WOULD'VE SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH. INSTITUTIONALISM NAILED HIM TO THE CROSS!

THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT...



5 out of 5 stars History, not Criticism   November 13, 2008
 1 out of 1 found this review helpful

This book is essentially an abbreviated history of where all of the common practices (outside of Christmas and Easter) of the Protestant church came from. I felt that the author made every effort to present the facts as cleanly as possible.

That said, you probably noticed that many reviewers are very critical of the author's "opinions", but I got the impression that he was very up front about what was opinion and what was fact, and most of the disturbing parts of this book are undeniable facts. This is a very important book for Christians to read.

P.S. - If you liked Shane Claiborne's "Irresistable Revolution", you will like this book. Together with "Reimagining Church", it's a more paced, scholarly verison of the same basic concepts.



5 out of 5 stars Answers for questions not asked much   November 2, 2008
 0 out of 1 found this review helpful

Elke zichzelf respecterende kerk of gemeente beweert zich te baseren op Gods Woord, de Bijbel. Leer en praktijk worden met een beroep op de Heilige Schrift onderbouwd, verklaard en verdedigd. Kerkverlating omdat de gewoontes niet (meer) aanspreken, het haast slaafs volgen van tradities of het versterken van de eigen identiteit ten koste van omliggende gelovigen en denominaties zijn zo wat effecten. Zelf zoek ik al jarenlang naar de momenten en oorzaken in de kerkgeschiedenis die het prille begin van het christendom in het bijbelboek Handelingen hebben gemaakt tot de instellingen die we nu kerk en gemeente noemen, kortom het 'christelijke wereldje' uitleggen. Viola & Barna hebben met Pagan Christianity? de ongestelde vragen gesteld en zijn op zoek gegaan naar antwoorden. Niet om God en geloof af te vallen, integendeel, juist om te zoeken naar de bijbelse wijze van samenkomen van christelijke gelovigen. In hun analyse van de kerkgeschiedenis heeft het schrijversduo zich vooral gericht op de Protestante Kerk als instituut. Uiteraard zijn de Rooms-Katholieke Kerk in de eerste 15 eeuwen nodig voor het verhaal. En, waar menig evangelische gemeente of charismatische gemeenschap, Pinkstergemeente of andere denominatie zich nogal eens afzet tegen de 'gevestigde kerken', zijn ook deze instellingen niet schoon van menselijke instellingen en regels.

Genadeloos wordt afgerekend met de vele heidense invloeden die allerlei 'christelijke' instituties hebben gevormd tot wat ze nu zijn: kerkgebouw, verdeling tussen leek & kader, liturgie, preek, de dominee/voorganger, zondagse kleding, muziek in de samenkomst, tienden, betaalde kerkelijk werkers, doop en eucharistie, opleidingen theologie en bijbelscholen en de manier waarop de Bijbel wordt gelezen, uitgelegd en benaderd. Hoewel met 1100 voetnoten en een enorme schat aan achtergrondinformatie, willen de auteurs niet zozeer kennis overbrengen, informeren, maar harten aanraken. Nadrukkelijk staan ze aan het eind stil bij de 'En toen?' vraag. Een dergelijke reeks gewetensvragen aan de lezer vraagt om een reactie. Bewustwording wat door mensen ingesteld of ingebracht is, en wat werkelijk terug te voeren op de Bijbel, is een eerste begin. Het vervolg moet zitten in de manier waarop je met medegelovigen wilt, mag c.q. zou moeten samenkomen om God te aanbidden, geestelijk te groeien, elkaar te dienen en het evangelie bekend te maken in je omgeving.

Frank Viola zelf heeft goede ervaringen opgedaan met zogenaamde organic churches, gemeentes die wel lijken op het beeld, dat het Nieuwe Testament oproept van een christelijke gemeenschap. De profetie in Ezechiel 37 over het dal met dorre beenderen in gedachten hebbend, is het zaak een gemeente te laten geboren worden, niet zelf te maken. Immers, je zou heel makkelijk conclusies kunnen trekken uit het boek en vooral voor jezelf kunnen beginnen. Je huisgroep of wijkkring is zo tot nieuwe kerk gebombardeerd met jijzelf als hoofd. Dat is begrijpelijk, maar het is niet in lijn met de Bijbel.

Het boek zelf heeft al bij elk hoofdstuk een Q&A sectie, meer kun je vinden op www.paganchristianity.org. Ook behulpzaam is het vorige boek van Viola, The Untold Story of the New Testament Church: An Extraordinary Guide to Understanding the New Testament, een chronologische herschikking van de verhalen uit de nieuwtestamentische boeken en brieven om je te helpen het grotere geheel te zien. Pagan Christianity is wat Viola en Barna betreft slechts een deel van de conversatie. Het vervolg uit september 2008 heet Reimagining Church: Pursuing the Dream of Organic Christianity. Een reconstructie van Gods oorspronkelijke bedoeling met de gemeente, het lichaam van Christus, een organisch, levend, ademhalend organisme. Een gemeente vrij van conventies, gevormd door een geestelijke intimiteit en niet opgesloten tussen 4 muren.



1 out of 5 stars The error begins with the title   October 30, 2008
 7 out of 10 found this review helpful

The premise of this book is itself silly. There has never been anything like a pure, "non-Pagan" Christianity. The Israel of Jesus' day was under Roman occupation. Paul himself was a Roman citizen, trained in and influenced by greco-roman philosophy as well as the Jewish tradition. Of course, this entire project relies on a reading of Scripture that is untenable (every Christian has claimed their church to be "biblical," so this adjective is useless). Save your money. How do God's people worship? In the Old Testament, they went to a temple. Today Jews go to synagogues. Christians go to Church. Defending modern "anti-traditionalism" by asserting a more "biblical" tradition against it is logically implausible. This makes as much sense as hoping for America to go back to a pure, Athenian-style democracy. America is too big for that. So is the Christian Church. House churches are fine, even great. But you can't baptize and commune there, and it is very likely that God wants us to be in a community of saints larger than a house can hold.

This is nothing more and nothing less that bad scholarship used to defend the authors' "movement." Having footnotes does not an intelligent argument make.


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